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New High Efficiency Furnace, New Moisture Problem

By In High Efficiency Furnace Problem On June 23, 2009


Nelly has lived in the same split entry house since it was built in 1980, and has never had any moisture problems with his home until recently.  Shortly after replacing his old mid-efficiency natural draft furnace with a high-efficiency furnace, Nelly started noticing a host of moisture problems with his house.  It started with condensation on the windows that never used to be there.  Next thing he knew, water spots showed up on the ceiling around the skylights, which were the result of excessive condensation in the attic.

Nelly called the HVAC company that installed his furnace and complained about the moisture problems he was having.  A badly cracked heat exchanger could lead to moisture problems in a home, and a vent that is not properly exhausting to the exterior could also cause serious damage to the home. The installers came out and checked everything, but it was all working fine.  Why is Nelly having moisture problems now?

The answer has to do with combustion air and dilution air.  On a standard furnace, combustion air and dilution air are taken from inside the house.  Combustion air provides the oxygen that is required for combustion, and dilution air helps to lower the temperature of the exhaust gases.   When you add up the combustion air and dilution air, it equals quite a large volume of air that is constantly rising up and out of the house during the heating season.

Combustion Air

Combustion air and dilution air get replaced with cold, dry outside air.  This is part of the reason that older houses get so dry in the winter.  Is this starting to make sense?

High efficiency furnaces save energy by taking combustion air directly from the exterior, rather than wasting the heated air in your home for combustion.  When Nelly replaced his natural draft furnace with a high efficiency furnace, he stopped wasting all that warm, moist air.  In reality, the high efficiency furnace didn’t ‘create’ the moisture problem; it just replaced a less efficient furnace that was helping to prevent a problem.

In order to address the moisture problems in his home, Nelly has a few options.  He could install a continuous exhaust fan to constantly remove air from the home, but this obviously wouldn’t be a very Green thing to do, because all of that warm air would always be replaced with cold air.  Nelly could run dehumidifiers all winter, but again, this would be expensive.  Nelly’s best option would be to install a heat recovery ventilator (HRV).  An HRV will constantly change out the air in the house while at the same time removing humidity from the house.

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Reuben

Reuben is a second generation home inspector with a passion for his work. He grew up remodeling homes and learning about carpentry since he was old enough to hold a hammer. Reuben has worked for Structure Tech since it was purchased by Neil in 1997, and is now co-owner of the company. Reuben’s favorite customers are the ones who have a lot of questions; he grew up thinking he was going to be a school teacher because he enjoyed teaching others so much. In a sense, that’s a lot of what home inspections are about, so Reuben truly does what he loves. Reuben has an A.A. degree in liberal arts and has attended most of the Building Inspection Technology classes at North Hennepin Community College. Reuben and his wife are the proud parents of two young childen, Cy Alexander and Lucy Nicole, and have a German Shepherd named Stanley. With two young children Reuben doesn’t have much free time, but he still tries to play disc golf as often as possible during the summer. Reuben lives in Maple Grove, MN. Professional Qualifications / Memberships: *ASHI Certified Inspector *President, ASHI Heartland Chapter *Member, Minnesota Society of Housing Inspectors (MSHI) *Licensed Minneapolis Truth-in-Sale of Housing Evaluator *Licensed Saint Paul Truth-in-Sale of Housing Evaluator *Licensed Maplewood Truth-in-Sale of Housing Evaluator *Licensed Hopkins Truth-in-Housing Evaluator *Licensed Robbinsdale Point of Sale Evaluator *Affiliate Member, Southern Twin Cities Association of Realtors

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7 Comments

  • Reuben Saltzman 3 YEARS AGO

    Gotcha. In that case, no way. If you have moisture in your attic, it's coming from inside the house - not from the furnace exhaust. Check out this link - http://www.structuretech1.com/category/frost-in-attics-2/ .

  • Ben Schmitz 3 YEARS AGO

    It is not venting directly in, we have a three story, the vent is under the main level deck. The contractor said the moisture from the vent is rising the 25+ feet, up to the sofit and because of the excellent air flow is causing excessive moisture and frost in the attic. We were having him out to look and see if the baffles they put in two years age were crushed and impeding air movement.

  • Ben Schmitz 3 YEARS AGO

    We are having excess moisture and an insulation guy came out and said the reason why we have moisture in attic,mis because our high efficiency furnace is venting into attic. Three are three levels for the moisture to rise up, does this seem plausible?

    • Reuben Saltzman 3 YEARS AGO

      If your furnace is venting in to the attic, you would definitely be having ridiculous moisture problems. It's certainly plausible. If your furnace is venting in to your attic, you need to have it repaired as soon as possible.

  • home inspection new jersey 5 YEARS AGO

    This is great, everyone getting ready to remodel should try this.