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Don’t Poke Holes In Your Pipes

By In Saddle Valves On May 25, 2010


Most ice makers and whole house humidifiers I inspect have a saddle valve supplying the water. These are devices that allow for a very fast, cheap, do-it-yourself installation of a ¼” water supply line.

Saddle ValveSaddle valves are installed by tightening a metal clamp on to a water pipe, then tightening down a needle valve until it pierces the water pipe.  No cutting of pipes is required, no soldering, no special tools… simple.  Very DIY.  The needle just pokes a hole in the pipe, and I’ve heard it can be done without even turning off the water… not that I’ve ever tried.   There has to be a catch, right?

There is.  These saddle valves are prone to leakage, and they’re not allowed by the Minnesota State Plumbing Code.

Leaking Saddle Valve

Leaking Saddle Valve2

Most of them don’t leak, but they have a much higher chance of leaking than a properly installed water valve.  If they do end up leaking, the repair will involve doing all the stuff that you’re supposed to be able to avoid – cutting, fitting, reaming, cleaning, soldering, etc.

My advice is to not use saddle valves.  If you plan to install an appliance that needs a ¼” water pipe, have a proper shutoff valve installed.  It will take more time to do it right, but you’ll dramatically lower the chances of it leaking.

Proper Shutoff Valve

If you already have a saddle valve in your home, try to leave it alone.  Every time you operate the valve, you increase the chances of creating a leak.

Reuben Saltzman, Structure Tech Home Inspections – Email – Minnesota Home Inspector

        


 


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Reuben

Reuben is a second generation home inspector with a passion for his work. He grew up remodeling homes and learning about carpentry since he was old enough to hold a hammer. Reuben has worked for Structure Tech since it was purchased by Neil in 1997, and is now co-owner of the company. Reuben’s favorite customers are the ones who have a lot of questions; he grew up thinking he was going to be a school teacher because he enjoyed teaching others so much. In a sense, that’s a lot of what home inspections are about, so Reuben truly does what he loves. Reuben has an A.A. degree in liberal arts and has attended most of the Building Inspection Technology classes at North Hennepin Community College. Reuben and his wife are the proud parents of two young childen, Cy Alexander and Lucy Nicole, and have a German Shepherd named Stanley. With two young children Reuben doesn’t have much free time, but he still tries to play disc golf as often as possible during the summer. Reuben lives in Maple Grove, MN. Professional Qualifications / Memberships: *ASHI Certified Inspector *President, ASHI Heartland Chapter *Member, Minnesota Society of Housing Inspectors (MSHI) *Licensed Minneapolis Truth-in-Sale of Housing Evaluator *Licensed Saint Paul Truth-in-Sale of Housing Evaluator *Licensed Maplewood Truth-in-Sale of Housing Evaluator *Licensed Hopkins Truth-in-Housing Evaluator *Licensed Robbinsdale Point of Sale Evaluator *Affiliate Member, Southern Twin Cities Association of Realtors

8 Comments

  • Reuben Saltzman 3 YEARS AGO

    It took me a month, but I was finally able to take a few photos of the old style saddle valves that the Minnesota State Plumbing Code accepts (I think). These were at a house in Saint Louis Park. Saddle Valve 1 Old Saddle Valve 2 Old Saddle Valve 4 Old Saddle Valve 5 Saddle Valve 6

  • Reuben Saltzman 3 YEARS AGO

    You don't have a photo of it, do you?

  • Ken Rowe 3 YEARS AGO

    Actually, I had one on the galvanized pipes in my own house (St Paul, 1948 build). They used it to connect a pressure relief valve to the cold water pipe going to the laundry sink.

  • Reuben Saltzman 3 YEARS AGO

    Hi Ken, That valve looks like nothing I've ever seen before. Have you? The description says "saddle clamp", not "saddle valve".

  • Ken Rowe 3 YEARS AGO

    Reuben, You are correct, I did give the wrong example of approvals. Here's a picture of an approved saddle valve. http://www.erg.co.za/sadclamp.jpg

  • Ken Rowe 3 YEARS AGO

    We were just having this discussion at an ASHI meeting. MN plumbing code does allow approved saddle valves: 2009 Minnesota Plumbing Code https://www.revisor.mn.gov/rules/?id=4715&view=chapter#rule.4715.0800 4715.0800 Mechanical Joints "Saddle-type fittings secured by steel electroplated U-bolts may be used for aboveground water distribution, if the fittings are galvanized, include a collar fitting into the pipe opening with a gasket, and have IAPMO approval." Here's an example of approvals: http://pld.iapmo.org/file_info.asp?file_no=N6065

    • Reuben Saltzman 3 YEARS AGO

      Hi Ken, I wish I would have been at that meeting, it sounded like a good discussion. The saddle valves that everyone uses on copper tubing, and the ones that you gave a link to as an example of approvals, are not the type mentioned in 4715.0800. They are not secured by steel electroplated U-bolts, the fittings are not galvanized, and they do not have a collar fitting into the pipe opening with a gasket. - Reuben