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Drum Traps

April 16th, 2013 | No comments

Many older houses in Minneapolis and Saint Paul have an old style of plumbing trap called a drum trap, which is no longer allowed in Minnesota except in special circumstances.  The photo below shows an example of a relatively small drum trap found below the bath tub at a recent home inspection in Hopkins.

Small Drum Trap

Drum traps come in all different types of shapes, sizes, and configurations.  The crude diagrams below show a few examples of different types of drum traps I’ve come across, as well as one type of setup that wouldn’t create a water seal trap, shown at the bottom right.

Drum trap diagrams

As mentioned in previous posts, the purpose of a plumbing trap is to prevent sewer gases from coming in to a building.  A drum trap does the same thing, but instead of just having a dip in the pipe to create a P-trap, a drum trap consists of an enlarged ‘vessle’  that holds a large volume of water.  In the Twin Cities, drum traps were commonly used at bath tubs and occasionally at laundry sinks.

Why they used to be popular

In my posts about s-traps and plumbing vents, I explained how proper plumbing vents prevent water from getting siphoned out of traps and why it matters.  Water can be siphoned out of a drum trap in the same way it can be siphoned out of a p-trap or s-trap, but drum traps hold so much water that it’s pretty much impossible to have enough water siphon out to allow sewer gas in to the home.

Drum traps were also supposed to be easier to open up for cleaning and retrieving lost items, but it didn’t always work that way.  I’ll come back to this.

Why they’re no longer allowed*

One of the basic plumbing principals of the Minnesota State Plumbing Code  (4715.0200, “s”) says that “Each fixture shall be provided with a separate, accessible, self-scouring, reliable trap placed as near to the fixture as possible.”  If you take apart any properly installed p-trap, you’ll probably find that it’s nice and clean inside; this is because it’s self-scouring.  The water drains through the trap in such a manner as to pull solid materials out of the trap along with the water.

The main problem with drum traps is that they’re not self-scouring.  A drum trap holds so much water that the water and solids coming in to the trap will not be pulled directly through, which can allow for the accumulation of solids in the bottom of the trap.  This makes drum traps more prone to getting clogged.

Another problem with drum traps is that they can be difficult to clean out.  Most drum traps have a removable cover, but drum traps are usually located right below the floor, making the lid extremely difficult to access without cutting out the floor.  At my last house in Minneapolis, there was a removable panel in the floor created just for accessing the drum trap.

Even when the cover is accessible, it can be difficult or impossible to remove the cover because the threads are rusted shut.  One Minneapolis home-improvement blogger recently wrote about how he was able to saw the top of his drum trap off, and then covered it over with a rubber test cap.  While the test cap is only supposed to be used temporarily, I suppose I wouldn’t hesitate to do the same thing if I had a problematic drum trap.

When the cover for a drum trap is accessible and easy to remove, it’s important to make sure that it makes a tight seal.  It has the potential to allow sewer gas in to the home or leak if not sealed properly.

What to do about them

If you have an old drum trap in your house or you’re buying an old house with a drum trap, there’s no need to get whipped up.  Drum traps usually work just fine, but they’re more prone to getting clogged, and can be difficult to service.     Wait until a plumber is out doing other work to have your drum trap replaced.

On a personal note, I had a drum trap at my last house in Minneapolis.  It clogged shortly after I moved in, so I removed the cover and cleaned it out.  I put the cover back on, and never had a problem with it for the next seven years that I lived there.  It was installed in such a way that replacing it would have required making a nasty hole in one of my floor joists, so I just left it alone.

*The exception

Section 4715.0960 of the Minnesota State Plumbing Code says that “Drum traps shall be installed only when permitted by the administrative authority for special conditions (laboratory tables, dental chairs, etc.). ”  Drum traps are allowed in these locations because they’re not self-scouring.  If someone’s gold filling falls down the drain, a drum trap will allow it to just sit in the bottom for retrieval.

A few photos, just for fun

The photo below shows a crown-vented lead drum trap with the cleanout at the bottom.  The bath tub drain was also leaking.

Lead Drum Trap

This next one shows a relatively new PVC drum trap.

PVC Drum Trap

The drum trap shown below leaked profusely when we filled the bath tub with water and then drained it.

Leaking Drum Trap

Here’s a drum trap at a laundry sink.

Drum trap at laundry sink

The drum trap at this next laundry sink had a severely corroded cap.

Corroded cap at drum trap

This next one shows a drum trap installed on its side, along with a bunch of those rubber clamp connectors that aren’t supposed to be used.

Sideways drum trap

Below is one of my favorite photos of all time, which I’ve shared before.  This drum trap had probably rusted apart or someone had to cut the bottom off to clean it out, so MacGyver  fixed it with the bottom of a coffee can, glue, tape, and string.  Spray painting the bottom red was also a nice touch.

Hack drum trap repairs

Author: Reuben Saltzman, Structure Tech Home Inspections

          

 

Combustion Air Duct Connected to the Return Plenum

April 9th, 2013 | 3 comments

Two of my recent blog posts have been about the need for combustion air ducts and common problems with combustion air ducts, but I never covered the topic of connecting a combustion air duct directly to the plenum on a furnace.  This actually used to be standard practice for a long time; the crude diagram below shows how this worked.

Combustion Air Connected to Return Plenum

When the combustion air duct is connected directly to the return plenum for a furnace, the blower fan on the furnace pulls outdoor air in to the return plenum.  To supply this air to the furnace room, a supply register is added at the ductwork in the same room, typically right above the furnace.  This is an undesirable setup, for a number of reasons.

Waste of Energy

During the winter, this setup pulls cold outdoor air in to the house, directly in to the return plenum for the furnace.  While a combustion air duct that terminates at the floor will allow cold air to come in to the house, it’s not nearly as much air compared to the duct connected to the furnace return plenum.  When it’s very cold outside outside, that’s a ridiculous amount of cold air being pumped in to the house, but because it gets tempered by the furnace, nobody feels it.  This is a big waste of energy.

Combustion air connected to return (winter)

During the summer, the opposite happens.  This setup pulls warm, moist outdoor air in to the house just before the air conditioner’s evaporator coil, as shown below.  Again, this is a waste of energy.

Combustion air connected to return (summer)

Pressurizes the House

When a combustion air duct is connected directly to the return plenum on a furnace, the house becomes pressurized when the furnace blower fan starts running.  How does this air leave the house?  Any way it can; plenty of these household air leaks were covered in this post about why houses need combustion air ducts.

The air leaks that really cause problems are the air leaks found in the attic.  Attic air leaks lead to frost in the attic as well as ice dams, and the effect is magnified when a combustion air duct is connected to a furnace return plenum.

Code Violation

As a home inspector I don’t get hung up on code requirements, but as long as I’m blogging about this topic, it’s worth mentioning that the Minnesota State Mechanical Code no longer allows the combustion air duct to be connected to the return plenum.  Section 708.1, #3 says:

[Combustion air ducts shall:] Terminate in an unobstructed space allowing free movement of combustion air to the appliances.

Frequently Disabled

While it’s common for home inspectors to find combustion air ducts stuffed shut with clothing inside the house, it’s actually even more common for the combustion air duct to be disabled when it’s connected to the return plenum.

Remember, that register above the furnace is what supplies combustion air to the furnace room.  Because this register is located right above the furnace, it’s also the most powerful register in the house, which makes the furnace room very warm during the winter.  When well-intentioned homeowners don’t understand how their combustion air is connected, they assume that the register above the furnace is only there to supply heat to the room, so they block it off to get more heat to the areas that matter.  This prevents combustion air from getting to the appliances that need it.

Note the cardboard blocking this opening in the photo below, despite the stern warning from the HVAC contractor.

Blocked combustion air supply

What To Do

If the connection from the combustion air duct to the return plenum is visible inside the house, the fix for this situation is simple: have the combustion air duct disconnected from the furnace return plenum, and have the duct dropped down in to the room.  Also, have the old hole in the return plenum blocked off.

Combustion Air Disconnected from Return Plenum

Any HVAC contractor should be able to help make this simple change, which is something we’ve recommended to countless home inspection clients.

Author: Reuben Saltzman, Structure Tech Home Inspections

          

New Safety Requirements for Bath Tub Faucets in Minnesota

April 2nd, 2013 | 2 comments

The newest version of the Minnesota State Plumbing Code, published electronically on November 13, 2012, now requires a safety device to be installed on bath tub faucets to help reduce the potential for serious scalding injury.  Here’s the exact text, which comes from section 4715.1240 of the Minnesota State Plumbing Code:

Subp. 4. Hot water temperature control device for tubs. Bathtubs and whirlpool tubs must be provided with water temperature limiting devices set at a maximum water temperature of 120 degrees Fahrenheit to reduce the risk of scalding, according to ASSE Standard 1070.

Watts MMV

This means that the water coming out of a bath tub faucet needs to be tempered so that the hottest water that can come out of the faucet is 120 degrees F.

So how is this done?  I asked Mark Jerde of RightMark Plumbing how he achieves compliance with this new requirement.  He installs thermostatic mixing valves conforming to ASSE 1070 at the supply lines to bath tub faucets.  One such mixing valve is the Watts MMV series, pictured at right.  Just don’t look for these types of valves at big box home improvement stores; they don’t sell them.  Maybe this will change soon.

Mixing Valve

For more info on this new standard, click here: ASSE 1070

Author: Reuben Saltzman, Structure Tech Home Inspections

          

Combustion Air Ducts, Part II: Problems and Solutions

March 26th, 2013 | 7 comments

Last week I wrote about what combustion air ducts are and why houses need them. This week I’m going to follow up with some of the most common problems and solutions related to combustion air duct installation and maintenance.

By far, the most common problem that occurs with combustion air ducts is that they get blocked.  When a combustion air duct is blocked, air needs to ‘leak’ in to the house through many different undesirable pathways.  I’ve done a number of home inspections where the windows were completely iced shut throughout the house, and in every case there was a blocked combustion air duct.

Problem: Intentional, ignorant blockage

A combustion air duct brings in fresh outdoor air, which usually means cold outdoor air in Minnesota.  This can create a cold floor where the duct terminates, as well as a cold draft.  I was going to make a nice little drawing of this cold air coming in to the basement around my own combustion air duct, but then I remembered I have an IR camera.  Duh.  Check out the two images below for a nice visual of how the combustion air duct is making my basement floor cold.

Combustion air duct with IR overlay

 To prevent this cold air from dumping in to their home, people sometimes stuff clothes or towels in to the combustion air duct, or the block the intake at the exterior of the home.

Blocked Combustion Air Duct Combustion air covered with duct tape


Solution: Remove any obstructions.  If you want to help cut down on the amount of cold air that just ‘dumps’ down in to the basement, try creating a trap at the bottom of the combustion air duct.  Make the air have to rise back up again before coming in to the home.  I don’t have any hardcore proof that this makes a big difference, but I’ve convinced myself that it helps, and it’s easy enough to do. The two most common ways of creating a trap are to either make a “J” at the bottom of the duct, or to put a bucket  or box underneath the duct.  With either of these methods, the air will need to rise up before coming in to the home.

Combustion air duct with bucket Combustion air duct J

Just make sure that the bucket or box you use isn’t so small that it restricts air flow.  I’ve always just eyeballed this, but if you’re super anal, you could make your sixth grade math pay off by measuring the inside diameter of the bucket and the outside diameter of the duct, then calculate the surface areas (Πr²) and make sure the bucket’s is at least twice that of the duct’s.

Restrictive combustion air duct box Restrictive combustion air bucket

Also, make sure the duct isn’t so long that the opening sits flat on the floor, effectively blocking it.

Problem: Lack of maintenance

The opening at the exterior for the combustion air duct will bring air in to the home, and with that comes dust, dirt, insects, leaves, etc.   I’ve found that the closer the combustion air duct is located to the ground, the more likely it’s going to get blocked with debris.

Dirty combustion air intake

Solution: take a peek underneath your combustion air duct every year to make sure it stays clean.  If you do this during the summer or fall, watch out for wasps.  They love to make nests in this opening.  If the opening is dirty, vacuum it off.  If you have an HRV, check the HRV intake at the same time.

Problem: Small Mesh at the Exterior

The opening at the exterior of the home needs to be covered with a steel mesh having openings not less than 1/4″, and not more than 1/2″.   When standard window screen is used here, it will get dirty very quickly.  Click on the photo below for a larger view; you’ll see the opening is actually covered with a window screen, which should be removed.

Window screen at combustion air intake

Solution: Remove any restrictive mesh or material, and replace it with 1/4″ hardware cloth or something similar if it’s not already present.

Problem: Unintentional, ignorant blockage

Every so often, vinyl siding installers will forget which opening was meant for the combustion air intake, and they’ll install a damper at this opening instead of a screen.  These dampers allow air out, not in.

Damper at combustion air inlet

Solution: Replace the exterior terminal with a type that is designed for a combustion air intake, or remove the damper and cover the opening with 1/4″ hardware cloth.

Problem: Inlet installed too close to the ground

The inlet for the combustion air duct needs to be installed at least 12″ above grade.  When it’s too close to the ground, it can get dirty very quickly, and can get blocked over with snow.

Combustion Air inlet too close to grade Combustion air inlet blocked with snow

Solution: When the combustion air inlet is installed this close to the ground, it’s usually done because that’s where the rim joist was located, so making a higher hole in the side of the house isn’t an option.  The solution is to install what Milind calls a ‘snorkel’.  I laughed the first time I heard this, but I like this term.  I think the photo below is pretty self-explanatory.

Combustion air snorkel

That concludes my list of the most common installation and maintenance defects with combustion air ducts.  If I think of any more, I’ll add them to this list in the future.

Author: Reuben Saltzman, Structure Tech Home Inspections

          

 

Quick links in this post: Blocked duct at interior, dirty intake at exterior, small mesh at exterior, blocked intake at exterior, intake installed too low, cut down on cold air coming in.

Combustion Air Ducts, Part I: Why Houses Need Them

March 19th, 2013 | 4 comments

Have you ever noticed a big insulated tube dropping down next to the floor near your furnace or boiler in the basement?

Makeup Air Duct

If you trace this duct down, you’ll find that it connects to an opening at the exterior of the building.  This is essentially just a hole in the side of the building that brings in fresh outdoor air.  Homeowners, builders, and insulation contractors spend lots of  time trying to seal up every little air leak in to a house, but then the building code requires this big hole that allows cold air to just dump in to the basement.  Silly, right?

I’ll try to help make some sense of this.

Houses need air

This opening is a passive intake that provides needed air to the home.  There are several items in a home that remove air – here’s a partial list of common items found in Minnesota homes that remove air from the house:

  • Furnaces and boilers that are not direct vent / sealed combustion type
  • Water heaters that are not direct vent / sealed combustion type (at least 99%)
  • Bathroom exhaust fans
  • Kitchen exhaust fans
  • Clothes dryers
  • Wood burning fireplaces

The stack effect in a home, wind, and radon mitigation fans may also remove air.  The most common and obvious problem with too much air being removed from a house is a backdrafting water heater, but there’s a lot more to it than just this.

Houses leak

When air is removed from a house, it has to be replaced.  If a house is not built tight, the air will get replaced from every little hole in the envelope in the house; the photos below show a few examples.  These are the things that get corrected to make houses “tighter”.   The first photo below shows an outlet box at an exterior wall that hadn’t yet been sealed.  Those openings get sealed in new houses today, but this never used to happen.

Leaky Outlet

The photo below shows the furnace vents going through the rim joist.  Daylight is visible around these penetrations, which means air leakage.

Leaks in rim joist

The opening around the faucet is obvious.

Air leak at sillcock

Of course, windows and doors are also a huge source of air leakage.  Daylight showing through is a dead giveaway.

Daylight visible below door

Leaking door with IR overlay

Unsealed openings in the exterior walls equates to uncontrolled air leakage.  Every time the wind blows, air will leak in or out through these openings.  Even without any air moving at the exterior, the stack effect in a home will cause air to leak in through the lower openings in the envelope of a home, and back out through the upper openings, such as attic bypasses.  The image below, used with permission © 2013 E Source, gives a visual example of the stack effect.

Stack Effect

The line of neutral pressure plane will be different in every home.  Some of the factors that affect this are differences in indoor / outdoor temperatures, wind, the height of the home, and how much air is leaking.  For the upper ‘positive pressure’ leaks, one of the most obvious that can be viewed from inside the house is a loose-fitting attic access panel.

Leak at attic access panel

Other attic air leaks, most of which can only be seen from inside the attic, are also major contributors.  These include leaks around furnace vents, electrical cables, plumbing vents, chimneys, etc.

When air is allowed to leak through the house uncontrolled like this, the amount of air leakage and energy loss is typically much more than it needs to be, and it doesn’t happen where, when, or how it should.  This can lead to condensation and frost at windows, in the attic, and even inside the walls.

Frost at basement wall

 

The Combustion Air Duct

To help reduce the effects of uncontrolled air leakage, houses get sealed up as tight as possible and a single hole is created to bring outdoor air in to the basement, usually right next to the furnace.  This is the combustion air duct I showed at the beginning of this post.

When a combustion air duct is properly installed, it will help prevent the house from getting depressurized.  The air is allowed to come in to the house as needed through a large opening, and all of those other holes in the walls can be sealed up.  To see how well this works in a new house, try running all of the exhaust fans for about 5 minutes, then put your hand over the end of the combustion air duct; if it’s working properly, you’ll feel plenty of air pumping in to the house.  Beautiful.

I’ll have a follow-up post next week discussing the most common installation and maintenance problems with combustion air ducts, and well as the solutions.  Of course, I’ll have photos of everything.

Special thanks to Steve Schirber at Cocoon Insulation for helping to write this post.

Author: Reuben Saltzman, Structure Tech Home Inspections